Ranking the Defensive Ends for the 2013 NFL Draft

Below is FRG’s current ranking of the top defensive end prospects in the 2013 NFL Draft:

1)  Barkevious Mingo, LSU

2)  Tank Carradine, Florida St. (Medical)

3)  Dion Jordan, Oregon

4)  Bjoern Werner, Florida St.

5)  Datone Jones, UCLA

Ranking the Outside Linebackers for the 2013 NFL Draft

Below is FRG’s current ranking of the top outisde linebacker prospects in the 2013 NFL Draft

(note:  The OLBs on this list are ranked by grade.  The list is still growing, and more OLBs will be graded and added as we approach draft day.):

Jarvis Jones, Georgia

Arthur Brown, Kansas St.

Jamie Collins, Southern Miss

Corey Lemonier, Auburn

Alec Ogletree, Georgia

DeVonte Holloman, South Carolina

Sean Porter, TAMU

Khaseem Greene, Rutgers

Jelani Jenkins, Florida

Trevardo Williams, UConn

Sio Moore, UConn

Keith Pough, Howard

Nathan Williams, Ohio State

Zaviar Gooden, Missouri

*Note:  Average number of outside linebackers drafted over last five years = 24

**To see the accurate measureables for each of the above-listed prospects, view the combine results here.

Scouting the DEs: Ziggy Ansah, BYU

ziggyThe OLB/DE position is arguably the strongest overall unit for the 2013 NFL Draft.  There no doubt will be a run on the position between picks 5 and 20, and as a result, some players could get drafted higher than their body of work would suggest they should.  I submit that “that” player will be Ziggy Ansah, the big and athletic DE from BYU.

Ziggy Ansah has enjoyed a meteoric rise in his stock over the last 8 weeks or so.  During that time, the national media has gotten hold of Ansah’s backstory, thus inflating the legend that is beginning to swell around him.  For those that don’t know, Ansah has only played football for two years after moving to the United States from Ghana.  Prior to playing football, Ansah had given basketball a chance (cut twice from BYU’s program) and participated in Track for the Cougars.  He found his niche along the defensive line for BYU’s 7-5 club.

With only two years experience, Ansah is the “potential” guy.  Multiple outlets compare Ansah to JPP because of their comparable limited experience on the college level.  But for me, the similarities end there.  Ansah is a physical specimen, but after doing an in-depth film breakdown of his game, I see very little that would suggest Ansah will have a JPP-like impact in the NFL.  At least, not early in his career.

Physical Makeup

Ziggy Ansah absolutely passes the eyeball test.  He looks the part, and there’s no denying that.  At 6’6 and 270lbs, Ansah projects well for DE in both the 43 and 34 schemes.  Ansah is a long as he is tall.  He has plus arm length and should have no physical limitations when transitioning to the NFL.  If coached properly, Ansah’s length should allow him to consistently be in the power position when rushing the passer.

In addition to Ansah’s natural physical appearance, his frame suggests that he will be able to add even more weight.  The fact that Ansah has only played football for two years also suggests that he’s only had that much time in a football-based lifting program.  If put in the hands of a good strength and conditioning coach/program on the next level, I see Ansah adding another 10 good pounds and enhancing his already beastly appearance.

Strength and Leverage

Ziggy Ansah displays very poor technique when firing out of his stance.  In fact, he simply doesn’t “fire”.  Time and time again, I noted Ansah standing straight up from his 4-pt and 3-pt stances.  As a result, Ansah failed to gain the power position with his hands; he was never in position to “drive the bus”.  Opposing linemen easily beat him to the punch and Ansah was neutralized at the point of attack.  In fact, when he was both slow and sloppy out of his stance, he looked like a fringe-NFL guy.

ziggy 2Ansah displays plus strength when he applies proper technique.  He’s just stronger than the guys he’s lining up against.  But he rarely is able to showcase that strength advantage because of the afore-mentioned limitations.  That said, when Ansah is in proper position to make a play, he unloads on the ballcarrier and can be pretty vicious.  He’s able to throw QBs and RBs to the ground with ease.  It’s his true, natural strength.

Motor/Endurance

When Ansah has his legs under him, he doesn’t quit.  He’ll play to the whistle, and he makes a lot of his plays as a result of his continuous pursuit of the ball carrier.  I noted a few of his sacks as “coverage” sacks that he recorded as a result of his effort and hustle.  However, and this was GLARING to me, Ansah is not well-conditioned.  On more than one occasion, I questioned “what the heck is he doing?”.  He would virtually stand straight up out of his stance, and, basically, do nothing.  It’s a huge wart on his film that will absolutely get noted by every NFL team.   But as I stated before, I highly doubt Ansah has had much experience in the “football conditioning” department.  An NFL team will have to project that Ansah will gain football endurance after having year-round training involvement in a pro strength and conditioning regiment.

Speed/First-step

Ansah is a really good athlete for his size, and he showcases plus speed for a man his size.  He can run down much smaller and seemingly quicker RBs and QBs and will be a guy that performs well in pursuit.  However, he lacks the first-step that I want to see from a first round DE prospect.  A lot of it is his technique, but I have to go by what I see on film.  And what I see is the natural tendency to stand up, hesitate, and then go.  Yes, these are coachable issues.  But it’s such a glaring negative that I think an NFL team will have to really, REALLY be careful investing a high pick in a player that does not show the ability to gain the edge on NFL OTs.  The first-step that he displays on film is one that NFL linemen will eat alive.  In fact, I have a hard time projecting him as a pass rusher on the next level because of how poor his film shows.

It should be noted that a lot of Ansah’s QB pressures and sacks come from when he’s lining up as a DT.  When he’s lined up against the OG/C, he physically dominates and collapses the pocket with ease.  But he’s not going to play DT in the NFL.  And while some talent evaluators will be wowed by his explosive pursuit to the QB, you have to note that it usually comes from a position that he is NOT going to play in the League.  When he’s lined up as a DE, he’s neutralized time and time again.  I attribute his inability to get to the QB (as a DE) to his first-step and his fringe-skillset in that department.

Pass Rushing

Ansah fails to demonstrate a skilled arsenal of pass rushing moves.  Unlike, say, Bjoern Werner (Fla St.), Ansah relies solely on his physical advantages rather than any much-needed pass rushing moves.  At times, Ansah attempts a spin-move, but it’s not impressive.  Ansah rarely gets the edge and shows very little ability to dip his shoulder and get around the OT.  Rarely did I see him rip or swim.  He’s a major project that will take every bit of a skilled DL coach to mentor him.

Vs. the Run

Ansah is big and strong enough that he can set the edge vs. the run.  In addition, he’s a good enough athlete to run a ballcarrier down in pursuit.  He displays very little ability to disengage, so it’s unlikely that he’ll be able to more than just set the edge.  NFL linemen will not lose the one-on-one battle against Ansah in the run re: technique, but Ansah will fight.  He’ll maintain his position, even if he can’t shed the block to make the tackle.

ziggy 3Overall

Strengths:  Ansah possesses good overall length for his size.  He’s a long DE.  He displays good athleticism and body control to work his way into a play, both in pursuit vs. the run and in rushing the passer from the edge when the coverage holds up downfield.  He has played all over the BYU defense, lining at DT and at DE (both in the 3 and 2 pt stance).  Possesses the strength to set the edge vs. the run.

Weakness:  Displays poor technique and is a raw, unfinished product.  Fails to demonstrate a first-step needed to become a good pass rusher in the NFL.  Consistently loses the hands battle, and gets tied up and neutralized far too often.  Fails to demonstrate an ability to disengage and shed a block.  Possesses a limited pass rushing arsenal that requires extensive coaching on next level.

Bottom Line:  Ziggy Ansah is getting a lot of unwarranted national media attention largely because of his backstory. Ansah is a raw and unfinished product that will struggle to make the transition to the NFL.  The comparisons to Jason Pierre-Paul (NYG) are unwarranted, as Ansah projects more as a RDE at this point in his development.  A team that selects Ansah will have to be patient with him and not expect any significant returns until year 2 or 3 at the earliest.

Ziggy Ansah would be a solid mid-late 2nd round pick based on his film alone.  His athleticism and likely success in pre-Draft workouts will enhance his Draft stock, and he probably will be a guy selected in round 1.  But buyer beware.  I wouldn’t touch this BYU Cougar until Round 2.

Scouting the DE’s: Corey Lemonier, Auburn

lemonier1In this installment of the FRG Scouting Series, I decided to take a look at Corey Lemonier, DE, Auburn.  Lemonier entered the 2012 College Football season with a lot of hype following a 2011 campaign that saw the Junior from Hialeah, Florida register 9.5 sacks and a team-high 13.5 tackles for loss (good for 8th in the SEC).  Lemonier is widely regarded as a one of the best 10 Defensive Ends available for the 2013 Draft.

The following is FRG’s breakdown of Corey Lemonier’s game and projection to the NFL:

Body Type:

Lemonier is listed at 6’4, 246lbs.  He’s a chiseled athlete whose work ethic in the gym is obvious.  However, Lemonier presents as a player that is a little light in the legs and the rear.  I’m concerned that his frame suggests a lacking lower-body strength that is needed to anchor down against bigger, stronger NFL offensive linemen.  I question whether Lemonier has the body-type to add weight; he’s extremely muscular.  It’s not as easy as one might expect.

Lemonier has plus length for the position.  He has a long frame, especially his arms.  In order to have a fighter’s chance as a pass rusher in the NFL, you need to have long arms.  Lemonier has them.  With proper coaching, he should able to learn how to use his length to his advantage and consistently gain the leverage advantage against opposing linemen.

In my estimation, Lemonier will have to add anywhere from 10-15 lbs to compliment his skill-set on the next level.

Quickness/Athleticism/Strength:

Q-  Lemonier displays an impressive first-step off the snap in the passing game and possesses a plus rip move once he gains the edge.  He can be a relentless pass-rusher who incessantly works toward the QB.

A-  Fails to demonstrate the requisite athleticism to project as a 34 OLB.  Appears stiff and upright at times.  While he rarely ends up on the ground, I Lemonier2question his flexibility based on what appears to be a tight-hipped running style and overall play.

S-  Fails to demonstrate the necessary strength to anchor down and be effective against the run in the NFL.  Lemonier allows opposing linemen to get the power position (hands inside) far too often.  When they do, he is neutralized.  He fails to flash the ability to disengage at a consistent, high level.  I am concerned that Lemonier could end up being a liability against the run in the NFL.

Motor:

Lemonier is a relentless football player.  He doesn’t stop pursuing the ball, and as a result, he gets in on a lot of plays.  At times, Lemonier will appear to be neutralized by the O-Line, but his continued effort leads to him making a play.  He’s a “snap-to-whistle” player, and his high-effort style projects well for his potential as a pass rusher in the NFL.

Pass Rush Arsenal:

Lemonier failed to flash multiple pass rush moves, as he relied heavily on his first-step and rip.  He displayed a plus ability to dip his shoulder around the edge, but it’s concerning that he did not display any additional moves in his arsenal.  That said, his frame and initial quickness presents a combination that is absolutely coachable on the next level.  An NFL coaching staff should have little trouble adding to Lemonier’s weaponry.

Overall

Corey Lemonier is a good pass rusher who uses a plus first-step to gain the edge on opposing linemen and get to the QB.  He possesses a high-motor and relentlessly pursues the ball through the whistle.  A long athlete with a muscular frame, Lemonier does not present as a player that can add much more than 10lbs.  Therefore, he projects as an undersized 43 DE that lacks the necessary athleticism to convert to an OLB in a 34.  Lemonier will have to make his living as a pass rusher unless he increases his functional strength to improve his ability to anchor down against the run.

Lemonier reminds me a lot of Andre Branch, the 2nd round pick of the Jaguars in 2012 from Clemson.  Lemonier is a little lighter than Branch, but I sense the same athletic limitations that were present in Branch’s film.  While Branch has struggled to adjust to the NFL game, he’s far from a finished product.  Whatever team drafts Lemonier will have to be patient with him, as I believe there will be a learning curve.  But with his natural frame, speed, and relentless motor, Lemonier could emerge in year 2 as a nice pass rushing specialist.

Lemonier projects as a late-2nd, early-3rd round pick.

Scouting the DE’s: Bjoern Werner, DE, Fla St.

While most of the attention through the first five weeks of the college football season has been squarely on Geno Smith (QB, WVU), another player has had a similar rise in their draft stock as that of the Mountaineer signal caller. Bjoern Werner, the 6’4, 260lb DE from Florida State, has wreaked havoc on opposing QBs so far this year. Once considered a 2nd to 3rd round prospect entering the 2012 season, Werner’s early-season production has placed him in the mix to be one of the first DE’s off the board.   With all the hoopla surrounding Werner’s month of September, I decided to take a look at his game versus Wake Forrest to get a baseline analysis of his skills.

Before getting into the tape, it’s important to note the intricacies of scouting the DE position. When watching film of a DE prospect, you have to not only get a feel for his athletic ability, but you also have to determine what type of system he would fit in best. A DE in a 4-3 requires an entirely different set of skills and measurables than a DE in a 3-4. Taken one step further, a DE lined up in a 4-3 in college may project as an elite 3-4 OLB (See Barkevious Mingo, LSU). Any qualified and competent scout knows that scouting a DE is just as much about fitting the player into the right system as it is about being a great athlete.   This is evidenced at the annual NFL Scouting Combine; many collegiate DE’s are put through the rigors of LB drills to see if they can make the transition that their measurables project. Can a player that has lined up at DE for his entire collegiate career drop into coverage? Can he run with a WR or a TE? Does he have the quickness to react and close on the ball?   These are all questions that sometimes can’t be answered simply by watching the film.

Bjoern Werner is the perfect example of a “tweener” DE. At 6’4 and barely 260lbs, he’d be considered light for the 4-3 DE spot. He will likely be worked out at LB at the Combine, and could be appealing to teams that utilize the 3-4 and are in need of an OLB. With that said, there are plenty of examples of DE’s in Werner’s height/weight range that have had great careers in the 4-3.

When I popped in Werner’s film, I wanted to see the following things: First, how quick is he? I’m not overly concerned with how fast a DE is. But if he has top-end quickness, he’s got a shot to be a good pass rusher. Remember: A DE doesn’t have to run 40 yards to get to the QB. The quick, sudden athlete is preferred when projecting a pass rusher. Second, what kind of body does he have? Does he have long arms, or is he on the stocky side? A pass rushing DE has to be able to fend off the 34 to 35 inch arms of the opposing LT.   If a DE has a stocky build, he’s less likely to be effective. Third, does he play to the whistle? A DE has to have a non-stop motor. He has to be going full speed from snap to whistle. Time and time again, the DE that continues to hustle and never stops pursuing the QB or ball carrier is the player that either makes the sack, TFL, or creates a turnover. If a player is loafing or taking plays off, they must be immediately downgraded. Finally, are they a one trick pony? Do they rely on the same pass rush move every time? Elite college DE’s can get by with one unblockable pass rushing move. Whether it’s a bull rush, rip, or flat out speed to the edge, a DE with one, and only one, pass rushing move will struggle on the next level. Pro linemen learn tendencies, and neutralize them, after a few days of film study. It’s the prospect that shows diversity in the way that they get to the QB that has a chance to be a top-level player in the NFL.

So how did Werner fair against Wake Forrest? I decided to breakdown each category listed above:

Quickness:

The one thing that immediately jumped out at me was how quick Werner is. He showed the ability to consistently beat the OT to the corner with his explosive first step.   He was consistently the first defensive lineman to move at the snap of the ball and displayed the sudden explosiveness that is needed to be a successful pass rusher in the NFL. Against Wake, Werner’s short-area speed was virtually unblockable. On two separate occasions, he got to the QB simply by getting the corner, dipping his shoulder, and slapping the OT’s hands away. There aren’t many OT’s in the Country that would posses the initial kick-step fast enough to neutralize the speed Werner displayed to the edge against Wake.

Body Type:

Werner possesses the necessary length to hold his own against NFL offensive linemen. While we may not know exactly how long his arms are until the NFL Scouting Combine, it’s clear on the tape that he has the body type to compete. Against Wake Forrest, he displayed good use of his hands and length on several plays; he was able to get to the chest plate of the opposing lineman and extend his arms to control the play. He didn’t appear to be overmatched or limited by any element of his physical makeup. As stated above, Werner is a “tweener”. He isn’t the prototype 4-3 DE, but I don’t think 4-3 teams are going to shy away from him. He looks like he can add a few more pounds, and being that he’s a “long” athlete, he’ll be able to hold up against the 34-35 inch arms of opposing NFL tackles.

Motor:

Bjoern showcased such explosive ability, that it may have covered up some loafing on a few plays. Don’t get me wrong: Bjoern Werner did not take any plays off. But there were instances where I would have liked to see him go a tad bit harder. I thought he could run down the backside of the play with more aggression at times. And it’s not that he would’ve made the tackle or created a turnover. But the fact that he didn’t do it means that we’ll never know. Again, nobody is going to confuse Werner for Quentin Coples (DE, NYJ). He plays hard on every play. But I am a big believer in not just playing hard at the snap, but playing hard through the whistle. Werner could’ve done more against Wake in this area.

Pass Rush Arsenal:

To be fair, Werner didn’t have to do much in this game other than “go” at the snap. He was such a mismatch. But this is where you have to be careful. Werner needs to display more than just an explosive first step in order to project well to the next level. And I thought he showed enough against Wake to say, with confidence, that Werner is not a one trick pony. Obviously, more film study is required to determine just how deep his pass rushing repertoire goes. But there were flashes of diversity in the Wake contest. Werner showed a willingness to bull rush as well as a good rip. On one occasion, he displayed a great combination of speed complimented by a strong rip that drew a holding call. For the most part, that’s just as good as a sack.

All in all, Werner displayed a skill set against Wake that certainly projects as a bona-fide pass rushing DE in the NFL. In addition, Werner displayed the necessary power to hold up and set the edge against the run and showcased good strength in shedding the block and making an impact in the run game. Bjoern Werner was every bit as good as advertised against Wake Forrest.   With a consistent body of work like that which he demonstrated vs. Wake, Werner will be a mid to high 1st-round selection in April’s Draft.